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|publisher        = [[Sony|SCEA]] (US), [[Sony|SCEE]] (EU), [[Sony|SCEJ]] (JP)
|publisher        = [[Sony|SCEA]] (US), [[Sony|SCEE]] (EU), [[Sony|SCEJ]] (JP)
|genre            = Action, Adventure
|genre            = Action, Adventure
|wikipedia        = [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primal_(video_game) Link]
|gamefaqslink      = [https://www.gamefaqs.com/ps2/518049-primal Link]
|reviewlinks      = {{ReviewLink|[http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-2/primal Metacritic]|73/100}}
|gameinfo          = Primal follows Jennifer Tate, a modern-day girl who is ripped from her normal life of being a student and thrown into an epic battle with demon forces from an immortal world. As Jen, you'll assume a host of savage demon forms, each with its own unique powers and abilities. With the help of your ally Scree, unleash devastating combos, finishing moves, and stealth attacks upon legions of enemies. With an intricate weave of plot and multiple sub-plots, Primal will have you spiraling through a world driven by exploration, puzzle-solving, combat, and story.<br />
|gameinfo          = Primal follows Jennifer Tate, a modern-day girl who is ripped from her normal life of being a student and thrown into an epic battle with demon forces from an immortal world. As Jen, you'll assume a host of savage demon forms, each with its own unique powers and abilities. With the help of your ally Scree, unleash devastating combos, finishing moves, and stealth attacks upon legions of enemies. With an intricate weave of plot and multiple sub-plots, Primal will have you spiraling through a world driven by exploration, puzzle-solving, combat, and story.<br />
The player can control either Jen or Scree as they navigate the realms of Oblivion. As the game progresses, newer demonic forms are obtained, which prove invaluable in solving various puzzles and combat. When in control of Scree, the player is invulnerable; Scree, being a gargoyle, cannot suffer damage, making him an effective scout. Scree is capable of climbing on stone walls, a necessary ability when traversing the realms.
The player can control either Jen or Scree as they navigate the realms of Oblivion. As the game progresses, newer demonic forms are obtained, which prove invaluable in solving various puzzles and combat. When in control of Scree, the player is invulnerable; Scree, being a gargoyle, cannot suffer damage, making him an effective scout. Scree is capable of climbing on stone walls, a necessary ability when traversing the realms.
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|wikipedia        = [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primal_(video_game) Link]
|widescreen        = 1
|widescreen        = 1
|progressive      = 2
|sw-rendering-only = 1
|sw-rendering-only = 1
|progressive      = 1
|cpu-intensive    = 1
|cpu-intensive    = 1
|gamefaqslink      = [http://www.gamefaqs.com/ps2/518049-primal Link]
|reviewlinks      = {{ReviewLink|[http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-2/primal Metacritic]|73/100}}
|japan_rating      = C
|japan_rating      = C
|na_rating_text    = Blood, Violence
|na_rating        = M
|na_rating        = M
|na_rating_text    = Blood, Violence
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|russian          = SCES-51685
|russian          = SCES-51685
|italian          = SCES-51135
|italian          = SCES-51135
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|GPU=?
|GPU=?
|Revision=0.9.8
|Revision=0.9.8
|Graphics=GSdx (r4600)
|Graphics=GSDX r4600(with DirectX11)
|Sound=
|Sound=
* SPU2-X r4600
* SPU2-X r4600
* SSSPSX Pressure mod 1.7.1
* SSSPSX Pressure mod 1.7.1
|Comments=BIOS: Europe 2.00, HACKS: none used, This game does only work, if you use the Bugfix "try to skip MPEG videos"(at least that is the translated german name of the fix). GSdx renderer: Direct3D11
|Comments=BIOS: Europe 2.00, HACKS: none used, This game does only work, if you use the Bugfix "try to skip MPEG videos"(at least that is the translated german name of the fix)
|Tester=Mel1993
|Tester=Mel1993
}}
}}
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|Region=NTSC-U
|Region=NTSC-U
|OS=Windows
|OS=Windows
|CPU=Intel Core i5-2500k @ 4.20 GHz
|CPU=Intel Core i5 2500k @ 4.2Ghz
|GPU=ATI Radeon HD 7970 @ 3 GB
|GPU=ATI Radeon 7970 3GB
|Revision=1.1.0 (r5492)
|Revision=1.1.0 r5492
|Graphics=GSdx
|Graphics=GSDX
|Sound=
|Sound=
* SPU2-X
*SPU2-X
* ?
*?
|Comments=US v01.60 (07/02/2002), All Recommend + MTVU, Works in Hardware - (Somewhat) & Software, Ingame cutscenes show a black screen with sound in Hardware switching to Software mode fixes this but also makes the FPS tank 12 to 25 at most is what i was getting with EE going from 95 to 100%  at times ingame is another story hardware kinda works. The screen is flashing constantly software shows everything fine but depending what's on screen i got 40 to 23 FPS.
|Comments=US v01.60 (07/02/2002), All Recommend + MTVU, Works in Hardware - (Somewhat) & Software, Ingame cutscenes show a black screen with sound in Hardware switching to Software mode fixes this but also makes the fps tank 12 to 25 at most is what i was getting with EE going from 95 to 100%  at times ingame is another story hardware kinda works. The screen is flashing constantly software shows everything fine but depending what's on screen i got 40 to 23 fps
|Tester={{ForumUser|riku44}}
|Tester={{ForumUser|riku44}}
}}
}}
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|Region=NTSC-U
|Region=NTSC-U
|OS=Windows
|OS=Windows
|CPU=Intel Core i7 @ 3.40 GHz
|CPU=Intel Core i7 @ 3.4Ghz
|GPU=NVIDIA GeForce GTX 285 @ 768 MB
|GPU=Nvidia GTX 285 768MB
|Revision=1.1.0 (r5576)
|Revision=1.1.0 r5576
|Graphics=GSdx SSE41 (r5570)
|Graphics=GSdx 5570 SSE41
|Sound=
|Sound=
* SPU2-X 2.0.0
*SPU2-X 2.0.0
* LilyPad 0.11.0
*LilyPad 0.11.0
|Comments=Runs at 50% speed. In-game videos are blank screens if gsdx is in hardware mode. Looks fine in software mode. Speed may not be 100%, but the game is still technically playable, as it can be played from start to finish.
|Comments=Runs at 50% speed., Ingame videos are blank screens if gsdx is in hardware mode. Looks fine in software mode. Speed may not be 100%, but the game is still technically playable, as it can be played from start to finish.
|Tester={{ForumUser|General-Plot}}
|Tester={{ForumUser|General-Plot}}
}}
}}
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|Region=NTSC-U
|Region=NTSC-U
|OS=Windows 7 SP1 x64
|OS=Windows 7 SP1 x64
|CPU=Intel Core i5-2500
|CPU=Intel i5-2500
|GPU=AMD Radeon HD 6850
|GPU=AMD HD6850
|Revision=v1.2.1 (728-g7328e55)
|Revision=v1.2.1-728-g7328e55
|Graphics=GSdx
|Graphics=GSDX Software (9/11)
|Sound=
|Sound=
* SPU2-X
* SPU2-X
* Lilypad
* Lilypad
|Comments=While using GSdx rendere Direct3D9/11 hardware intro runs at full speed but immediately it goes to the first cut-scene (which can be skipped) it tanks to ~10 FPS, plus a switch to software mode is needed to properly render the cut-scene as well as the game. While in-game FPS went up but still to slow to enjoy ~25-30 FPS. Direct3D9 software mode + setting the preset to "Aggressive" makes the game playable.
|Comments=While using GSdx9/11 hardware intro runs at full speed but immediately it goes to the first cut-scene (which can be skipped) it tanks to ~10 fps, plus a switch to software mode is needed to properly render the cut-scene as well as the game. While in-game FPS went up but still to slow to enjoy ~25-30 fps.  
GSdx9 software mode + setting the preset to "Aggressive" makes the game playable.
|Tester=Joder666
|Tester=Joder666
}}
}}
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|Region=PAL
|Region=PAL
|OS=Windows
|OS=Windows
|CPU=Intel Core2Duo E8500 @ 3.16 GHz
|CPU=Intel Core2 Duo E8500 @ 3.16Ghz
|GPU=NVIDIA GeForce GTS 250 @ 512 MB
|GPU=Nvidia GTS 250 512MB
|Revision=1.3.0 (git 05-06-2014)
|Revision=git 05 06 2014 1.3.0
|Graphics=GSdx SSE41
|Graphics=GSdx MSVC 18.00, SSE41
|Sound=
|Sound=
* SPU2-X 2.0.0
*SPU2-X 2.0.0
* LilyPad 0.11.0
*LilyPad (0) 0.11.0
|Comments=Always the same: this amazing game refuses to display anything 3D in hardware mode, only software looks good.
|Comments=Always the same: this amazing game refuses to display anything 3D in hardware mode, only software looks good..., Status
|Tester={{ForumUser|Parotaku}}
|Tester={{ForumUser|Parotaku}}
}}
}}
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* Original names: '''セインツ 聖なる魔物''' (SCPS-15052)
* Original names: '''セインツ 聖なる魔物''' (SCPS-15052)
* Also known as '''Saints: Seinaru Mamono''' (JP)
* Also known as '''Saints: Seinaru Mamono''' (JP)
* Access the Progressive Scan menu (not available for PAL region) by holding the '''cross''' and '''triangle''' keys together when the game boots up.
* Access the Progressive Scan menu (when using a disc of a region other than PAL\Europe) by holding the '''cross''' and '''triangle''' keys together when the game boots up.
* This game has built-in [[Talk:Primal#Game%20cheats|cheats]].


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==Known Issues==
==Known Issues==
{{Issue
{{Issue
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|IsFixed=0
|IsFixed=0
|IssueLevel=1
|IssueLevel=1
|Description=Game runs at very low framerates even with very powerful hardware
|Description=The game is unplayable due to enormous slowdowns. Everything no pre rendered cannot be played full fps. It is around 12 fps or less. EE Cyclerate and VU cycle stealing ramps up the fps counter to maximum and helps a little, but it is still choppy and not suited for an enjoyable gameplay.
|Workaround=No known workaround. Go to Config -> Video(GS) -> Plugin Settings, and set Renderer to any of the "(Software)" options to get the best results.
|Workaround=Software mode is the only usable mode here, but the game is unplayable even with a strong cpu. No emulation glitches though.
}}
}}


==The gallery==
==The gallery==
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File:Primal_Forum_4.jpg|Primal (SCES 51135)
File:Primal_Forum_4.jpg|Primal (SCES 51135)
</gallery>
</gallery>


{{ForumLinksList|list=
{{ForumLinksList|list=
*[http://forums.pcsx2.net/Thread-Primal-SCUS-97142-U--28659 Primal (SCUS 97142) (U)]
*[http://forums.pcsx2.net/Thread-Primal-SCUS-97142-U--28659 Primal (SCUS 97142) (U)]
*[http://forums.pcsx2.net/Thread-Primal-SCES-51135-E--28829 Primal (SCES 51135) (E)]}}
*[http://forums.pcsx2.net/Thread-Primal-SCES-51135-E--28829 Primal (SCES 51135) (E)]}}

Revision as of 19:55, 17 January 2018

Primal

Primal NTSC cover
Game general and emulation properties:
CERO rating: C
ESRB rating: M (Blood, Violence)
Widescreen supported natively
Progressive scan supported
CPU intensive game
Software rendering only
Languages supported:
English: SCES-51135 & SCES-51685 & SCUS-97142 & SCUS-97225 & NPUC-97142
Japanese: SCPS-15052
German: SCES-51135
French: SCES-51135
Spanish: SCES-51135
Italian: SCES-51135
Russian: SCES-51685
Region NTSC-U:
Serial numbers: SCUS-97142
SCUS-97225 (Demo)
NPUC-97142 (PS2 Classics)
Release date: March 25, 2003
February 28, 2012 (PS2 Classics)
CRCs: FCD89DC3
Windows Status: Playable
Linux Status: ?
Mac Status: ?
Region PAL:
Serial numbers: SCES-51135
SCES-51685
SCED-51484 (Demo)
Release date: April 11, 2003
Windows Status: Playable
Linux Status: ?
Mac Status: ?
Region NTSC-J/C/K:
Serial numbers: SCPS-15052
Release date: March 18, 2004
Windows Status: ?
Linux Status: ?
Mac Status: ?

Developer(s): SCEE
Publisher(s): SCEA (US), SCEE (EU), SCEJ (JP)
Genre: Action, Adventure
Wikipedia: Link
Game review links: Metacritic73/100
Game description: Primal follows Jennifer Tate, a modern-day girl who is ripped from her normal life of being a student and thrown into an epic battle with demon forces from an immortal world. As Jen, you'll assume a host of savage demon forms, each with its own unique powers and abilities. With the help of your ally Scree, unleash devastating combos, finishing moves, and stealth attacks upon legions of enemies. With an intricate weave of plot and multiple sub-plots, Primal will have you spiraling through a world driven by exploration, puzzle-solving, combat, and story.
The player can control either Jen or Scree as they navigate the realms of Oblivion. As the game progresses, newer demonic forms are obtained, which prove invaluable in solving various puzzles and combat. When in control of Scree, the player is invulnerable; Scree, being a gargoyle, cannot suffer damage, making him an effective scout. Scree is capable of climbing on stone walls, a necessary ability when traversing the realms.


Test configurations on Windows:

Environment Configurations Comments Tester
Region OS CPU/GPU Revision Graphics Sound/Pad
PAL ?
  • ?
  • ?
0.9.8 GSDX r4600(with DirectX11)
  • SPU2-X r4600
  • SSSPSX Pressure mod 1.7.1
BIOS: Europe 2.00, HACKS: none used, This game does only work, if you use the Bugfix "try to skip MPEG videos"(at least that is the translated german name of the fix) Mel1993
NTSC-U Windows
  • Intel Core i5 2500k @ 4.2Ghz
  • ATI Radeon 7970 3GB
1.1.0 r5492 GSDX
  • SPU2-X
  • ?
US v01.60 (07/02/2002), All Recommend + MTVU, Works in Hardware - (Somewhat) & Software, Ingame cutscenes show a black screen with sound in Hardware switching to Software mode fixes this but also makes the fps tank 12 to 25 at most is what i was getting with EE going from 95 to 100% at times ingame is another story hardware kinda works. The screen is flashing constantly software shows everything fine but depending what's on screen i got 40 to 23 fps
NTSC-U Windows
  • Intel Core i7 @ 3.4Ghz
  • Nvidia GTX 285 768MB
1.1.0 r5576 GSdx 5570 SSE41
  • SPU2-X 2.0.0
  • LilyPad 0.11.0
Runs at 50% speed., Ingame videos are blank screens if gsdx is in hardware mode. Looks fine in software mode. Speed may not be 100%, but the game is still technically playable, as it can be played from start to finish.
NTSC-U Windows 7 SP1 x64
  • Intel i5-2500
  • AMD HD6850
v1.2.1-728-g7328e55 GSDX Software (9/11)
  • SPU2-X
  • Lilypad
While using GSdx9/11 hardware intro runs at full speed but immediately it goes to the first cut-scene (which can be skipped) it tanks to ~10 fps, plus a switch to software mode is needed to properly render the cut-scene as well as the game. While in-game FPS went up but still to slow to enjoy ~25-30 fps.

GSdx9 software mode + setting the preset to "Aggressive" makes the game playable.

Joder666
PAL Windows
  • Intel Core2 Duo E8500 @ 3.16Ghz
  • Nvidia GTS 250 512MB
git 05 06 2014 1.3.0 GSdx MSVC 18.00, SSE41
  • SPU2-X 2.0.0
  • LilyPad (0) 0.11.0
Always the same: this amazing game refuses to display anything 3D in hardware mode, only software looks good..., Status


Trivia

  • Original names: セインツ 聖なる魔物 (SCPS-15052)
  • Also known as Saints: Seinaru Mamono (JP)
  • Access the Progressive Scan menu (when using a disc of a region other than PAL\Europe) by holding the cross and triangle keys together when the game boots up.
  • This game has built-in cheats.


Known Issues

Huge slowdown

  • Status: Active
  • Type: Serious
  • Description: The game is unplayable due to enormous slowdowns. Everything no pre rendered cannot be played full fps. It is around 12 fps or less. EE Cyclerate and VU cycle stealing ramps up the fps counter to maximum and helps a little, but it is still choppy and not suited for an enjoyable gameplay.
  • Workaround: Software mode is the only usable mode here, but the game is unplayable even with a strong cpu. No emulation glitches though.

The gallery

Public compatibility forum links