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:PS: For some reason when I try to write on your talk page, the Cloudflare check shows up before I'm redirected to a blank source, so I'm trying here and pinging [[User:Fobes|Fobes]]. [[User:TheTechnician27|TheTechnician27]] ([[User talk:TheTechnician27|talk]]) 10:25, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
:PS: For some reason when I try to write on your talk page, the Cloudflare check shows up before I'm redirected to a blank source, so I'm trying here and pinging [[User:Fobes|Fobes]]. [[User:TheTechnician27|TheTechnician27]] ([[User talk:TheTechnician27|talk]]) 10:25, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
::So I did some digging regarding the copyright status because you mentioned you got written permission, and [https://web.archive.org/web/20150905062625/https://cbsi.secure.force.com/CBSi/articles/FAQ/CBS-Interactive--Terms-of-Use?categories=CBS_Interactive%3AmTOU&popup=false&referer=mobileTerms.com&retURL=%2FCBSi%2Fapex%2Fknowledgehome%3Freferer%3DmobileTerms.com&template=template_mobileTerms this is what I came up with.] I can believe that you got this permission, although 1) we still don't distinguish that the GameFAQs material isn't under a CC-BY-NC-SA license, and 2) I still think it's better to have our own descriptions, especially for the ones that are so long that they detract from the readability of the wiki. [[User:TheTechnician27|TheTechnician27]] ([[User talk:TheTechnician27|talk]]) 12:40, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
::So I did some digging regarding the copyright status because you mentioned you got written permission, and [https://web.archive.org/web/20150905062625/https://cbsi.secure.force.com/CBSi/articles/FAQ/CBS-Interactive--Terms-of-Use?categories=CBS_Interactive%3AmTOU&popup=false&referer=mobileTerms.com&retURL=%2FCBSi%2Fapex%2Fknowledgehome%3Freferer%3DmobileTerms.com&template=template_mobileTerms this is what I came up with.] I can believe that you got this permission, although 1) we still don't distinguish that the GameFAQs material isn't under a CC-BY-NC-SA license, and 2) I still think it's better to have our own descriptions, especially for the ones that are so long that they detract from the readability of the wiki. [[User:TheTechnician27|TheTechnician27]] ([[User talk:TheTechnician27|talk]]) 12:40, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
Oh, you actually can talk! ;-) Most of the information on GameFAQs including descriptions and boxarts was collected buy unaffiliated contributors, people like you and me (stolen from other sources?). This is what I've been told and this is why they still have notes like "Contributed By: Polymathic" on every game page. They don't own the rights to these contributions, not fully anyways. Please stop worry too much about obscure copyrights for the ancient games on the system everyone has forgotten about a long ago. Besides, about 50% of descriptions here are not from GameFAQs (either written by the contributors themselves, taken from Wikipedia or snatched from other sites across the internet) and many of them are modified, rewritten or touched up. If the worst ever comes to worst, modifying some of the description could be done relatively quickly.
The wiki has many other problems which need to be addressed: outdated guides (you tried to start to update the main guide but never finished), trashy front page, broken spoiler tag (I'm still waiting for a PM response from seapancake before I'll try and take any action), lots of missing descriptions and boxarts for rare games, lots of missing developers pages (not that they are so crucial to the wiki but for completion purposes), lots of "stub" marks on completed game articles, a few series templates could possibly enhance experience, incorrectly names games, etc., etc.
The wiki however does not need 12K redirects of all Sony serial numbers into their corresponding game pages (c'mon man, what were you thinking? - you can literally type the serial into the search field instead), and most importantly we should agree on drastic changes before they are initiated and no changes should ever be started if they are doomed to be incomplete. Every now and then a new contributor modifies 5-10 pages in a drastic manner and disappears, thinking that his work is finished and leaving other 5K pages for the community to modify. You would never have finished your serial number redirection crusade it's unfeasible and unnecessary; and I've seen a lot of this kind of attempts through the years (most of them were reverted, a couple of earlier ones I finished myself). --[[User:Ngng|Ngng]] ([[User talk:Ngng|talk]]) 07:26, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
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