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:Yeah, I suspected it as much, I'll remove the duplicate, thanks! --[[User:Ngng|Ngng]] ([[User talk:Ngng|talk]]) 18:26, 29 March 2017 (BST) | :Yeah, I suspected it as much, I'll remove the duplicate, thanks! --[[User:Ngng|Ngng]] ([[User talk:Ngng|talk]]) 18:26, 29 March 2017 (BST) | ||
== PMed | == PMed you == | ||
It's me again, check your forum PM kthx :P | |||
== PS2 List Possible Missings == | == PS2 List Possible Missings == | ||
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Hey Ngng, I recently came across info about a demo - 989 Sports Demo (not the 2004 one SCUS 97373). Here are pics[http://imgur.com/a/74ozQ]. At first glance it looks like a PS1 demo disc however I know this is not the case, at the bottom of the front it also says "only for PS2". I'm thinking it might be SCUS-94677, 989 Sports 2003 Demo Disc (which sonyindex incorrectly listed as a PS1 game). Any more info? I saw it pop up on ebay a couple weeks back and am kicking myself for not buying it. --[[User:Dizzzy|Dizzzy]] ([[User talk:Dizzzy|talk]]) 16:31, 20 August 2017 (BST) | Hey Ngng, I recently came across info about a demo - 989 Sports Demo (not the 2004 one SCUS 97373). Here are pics[http://imgur.com/a/74ozQ]. At first glance it looks like a PS1 demo disc however I know this is not the case, at the bottom of the front it also says "only for PS2". I'm thinking it might be SCUS-94677, 989 Sports 2003 Demo Disc (which sonyindex incorrectly listed as a PS1 game). Any more info? I saw it pop up on ebay a couple weeks back and am kicking myself for not buying it. --[[User:Dizzzy|Dizzzy]] ([[User talk:Dizzzy|talk]]) 16:31, 20 August 2017 (BST) | ||
:Hi! It could still be 2004 Demo Disc (but, yeah, it's doubtful). If it's some 2003 demo it should (but may not) have serial number in range of 97200..97300 (see 97253, 97325, 97226, 97315, 97223, 97317, etc.), I've never seen 946XX serials for the PS2 (but who knows...). The sleeve says it contains only "exciting ''videos'' of these sport titles", so it's still could have only videos on it. But if you collect demos, I'm sorry you've missed it, it looks like it's in mint condition. --[[User:Ngng|Ngng]] ([[User talk:Ngng|talk]]) 08:16, 21 August 2017 (BST) | |||
::Meh, I don't really collect discs, I buy, redump / share then resell. It will probably turn up again eventually. By the way, the master list is missing: SLUS-29200 Konami Kids Playground. --[[User:Dizzzy|Dizzzy]] ([[User talk:Dizzzy|talk]]) 20:31, 21 August 2017 (BST) | |||
:Which one? There are four Konami Kids Playground titles and each of them already has a serial. I remember seeing this 29200 when I was working on SonyIndex database (or somewhere else) but skipped it back then. I can probably return to it later, though. --[[User:Ngng|Ngng]] ([[User talk:Ngng|talk]]) 08:05, 22 August 2017 (BST) | |||
:: It's a demo [http://www.ebay.com/itm/PLAYSTATION-2-PS2-KONAMI-KIDS-PLAYGROUND-DEMO-DISC-FAST-FREE-SHIPPING-WORKS-/291488889046?hash=item43de1778d6:g:dH0AAOSweW5VUOUa]. --[[User:Dizzzy|Dizzzy]] ([[User talk:Dizzzy|talk]]) 17:19, 23 August 2017 (BST) | |||
:Oh, cool, thank you! I'll add this when I get home from vacation. --[[User:Ngng|Ngng]] ([[User talk:Ngng|talk]]) 07:45, 24 August 2017 (BST) | |||
== More Missings == | |||
Hope these help! | |||
* SLUS-28065 Odin's Sphere (trade demo) [DVD][https://imgur.com/a/OaUfT] | |||
* SLUS-28069 Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4 (trade demo) http://www.ebay.com/itm/Atlus-Shin-Megami-Tensei-Persona-4-Playstation-2-Trade-Demo-Rare-/263203380651?hash=item3d4824ddab:g:QLAAAOSwcndZuFJj | |||
I also found evidence of a Persona 3 trade demo, but then found they made a PSP persona 3 trade demo and figured that might have been it (didn't have a serial number for it! --[[User:Dizzzy|Dizzzy]] ([[User talk:Dizzzy|talk]]) 23:08, 14 September 2017 (BST) | |||
:Wonderful! Thank you! --[[User:Ngng|Ngng]] ([[User talk:Ngng|talk]]) 06:49, 15 September 2017 (BST) | |||
== GameFaqs link infobox broken? == | |||
Hey ng, I was just modifying some pages and noticed GameFaqs links are no longer showing up. Did something get broken in the Infobox template with this? -- [[User:Ryudo|Ryudo]] ([[User talk:Ryudo|talk]]) 11:09, 23 September 2017 (BST) | |||
:Hey! They were always sitting there in the code "just in case". I had neither intention nor reason to show those links (otherwise someone would definitely remark about wiki affiliation with gamefaqs (which, if true, wouldn't be that bad)). --[[User:Ngng|Ngng]] ([[User talk:Ngng|talk]]) 15:52, 23 September 2017 (BST) | |||
== Note for You == | |||
Just a heads up, the reaosn you're seeing a bit more activity than normal is because I put a shout out on Reddit yesterday to try and get untested games filled in :) | |||
:Good thinking, thank you! I don't think this will last too long, though. :-\ I really need to shake off my own laziness one of these days and do something constructive for the wiki too... --[[User:Ngng|Ngng]] ([[User talk:Ngng|talk]]) 15:29, 17 November 2017 (GMT) | |||
Is there any way you specifically can edit the left column? It would be nice to add a tab for "Untested games" - currently it's buried in the Browse section, so not many people know about it. | |||
:By "Untested games" you mean [[:Category:Games without test cases|this category]]? The category is ''almost'' correct (it consists of articles with at least one empty test entry, so [[Ikki Tousen: Shining Dragon|this one]] will also qualify)). | |||
:Yep, the right panel is editable. I'll add the category there, if you think it'll help (and you can also edit it yourself, it's not protected). --[[User:Ngng|Ngng]] ([[User talk:Ngng|talk]]) 21:28, 17 November 2017 (GMT) | |||
Never mind, I saw your post above. | |||
:I guess this can be improved, but as it stands it shouldn't be a big problem. I'll think about it... --[[User:Ngng|Ngng]] ([[User talk:Ngng|talk]]) 22:58, 19 November 2017 (GMT) | |||
I know this is another big sort of request, but a way to identify games without compatibility threads linked in them would help us alot as well. I'm sure you could just detect whether or not the string is there no? | |||
:Initially I linked all compatibility thread posts to the corresponding wiki articles and every article back to a forum thread. Now I periodically update wiki articles with new posts' links. It's not a problem at all considering that the forum posts are sorted by date and I know the date of the last post I've checked. But "periodically" in my case means sporadically. | |||
:In other words, it's not an issue you want to spend any time on. It's under my slow and lazy control. --[[User:Ngng|Ngng]] ([[User talk:Ngng|talk]]) 20:43, 20 November 2017 (GMT) | |||
:And btw, I've checked now and save for your two new posts there were no updates since my last watch. --[[User:Ngng|Ngng]] ([[User talk:Ngng|talk]]) 20:57, 20 November 2017 (GMT) | |||
== new disc not on list == | |||
* SCED-52391[https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Welcome-Pack-Bonus-Demo-6-PlayStation-2-PS2-/352218397084] | |||
* SCED-53018 Bonus Demo 8 (Geu) [Germany?] | |||
S?ED-????? Area 51[https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PlayStation-2-ps2-area-51-demo-promo-disc-is-excellent-UK-pal-/272901179775] | |||
'''SLED-54315''' Lego Star Wars II The Original Trilogy[https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lego-Star-Wars-II-The-Original-Trilogy-PlayStation-PS2-Demo-Disc-/222679232092] | |||
--[[User:Dizzzy|Dizzzy]] ([[User talk:Dizzzy|talk]]) 05:50, 3 December 2017 (GMT) | |||
:Thanks, man! Your attention is really appreciated! --[[User:Ngng|Ngng]] ([[User talk:Ngng|talk]]) 09:14, 3 December 2017 (GMT) | |||
:I've brute-forced Lego Star Wars II serial, but was unable to do that with Area 51's one. I'll try to search for it later again, or maybe a better shot will pop up somewhere. --[[User:Ngng|Ngng]] ([[User talk:Ngng|talk]]) 10:27, 3 December 2017 (GMT) | |||
:: you're welcome. a rare PS2 USA demo collector has joined redump recently, he sent me a list he has compiled. I added a handful of discs to our miss list. At least a few of these discs are missing from your list. See changes I made to the redump wiki list today here[http://wiki.redump.org/index.php?title=Sony_Playstation_2_US_Missing_Dumps&action=historysubmit&diff=16285&oldid=16122] --[[User:Dizzzy|Dizzzy]] ([[User talk:Dizzzy|talk]]) 20:12, 4 December 2017 (GMT) | |||
:I will definitely check the new serials, thanks again! --[[User:Ngng|Ngng]] ([[User talk:Ngng|talk]]) 06:04, 5 December 2017 (GMT) | |||
:PAL demos look like an untapped gold mine. Whenever I search for a serial at least 2-3 more new demos pop up. --[[User:Ngng|Ngng]] ([[User talk:Ngng|talk]]) 11:14, 5 December 2017 (GMT) | |||
== running ngbot again == | |||
Hey, it seems the ngbot hasn't been logged in since May 23, 2017 according to the fourms. The compatibility list is quite outdated and alot of the dates are reported as not being updated since March 1st, 2015 - it seems like a full scrape should be in order. | |||
I wasn't sure if there was anything that had to be done on your side to get that going again. Thanks ;) | |||
Also remind me again, how does the data flow for the compatibility list work? I can't remember if entries from the forums automatically get added to the wiki or not/the other way around. Also, is the compatibility list sourced from the forums or the wiki? It's not exactly clear to me :P | |||
:Hey! Happy holidays! | |||
:I'll try to answer by explaining what ngbot is. ngbot is just my second account with different set of rights (say, a bit more rights for some forums threads). I used this account to fill '''every''' compatibility forum thread (and I mean, every one of them) only '''once''' (it was the spring of 2015, 2.5 years ago). And yes, it was done by the script run from my machine, but the script required A LOT of prior work (because forum threads named differently than the wiki pages, so I had to build a link table between the two, which was a cumbersome task). | |||
:After that time I had '''never''' run that script again (and hopefully never will). The wiki links for all the new forum threads (created after ngbot did it's job) are filled without using any script -- either by the person who created the thread or by me sporadically logging in into ngbot account (only if the link is absent). | |||
:On the wiki side the same work of initial linking was done by me (around the same time) by using the second script. After the initial run I've never used the second script either. All the subsequent new links I've added manually (fortunately there weren't so many at all). | |||
:Let's make it clear that we are talking only about [https://forums.pcsx2.net/Forum-Public-compatibility-list this forum] and the thread inside it. We're not talking about the contents of [https://forums.pcsx2.net/Thread-Request-thread-for-new-game-in-compatibility-list this thread] at all. | |||
:Question: Why ain't I updating forum links on the wiki pages? Answer: I'm on it, but I'm slow so bear with me (you can do it yourself if you want, though). The last time I've checked the compatibility forum for the new threads was in November 20, 2017 (I know the exact date because it is written in a special text file). When the next time I'll visit this forum I will open each thread that was created (or modified) '''after''' 11/20/2017 and make changes accordingly (if the thread misses a wiki link, I'll add a correct wiki link, if a corresponding wiki page misses a forum link, I'll add a forum link to that wiki page; and sometimes I add new forum test case itself to the wiki as well). | |||
:As to the subject of [https://pcsx2.net/compatibility-list.html this table], it has nothing to do with me at all. As far as I know it's filled by the simple (?) script run on the server side (periodically?). The script indeed creates table from the data of public compatibility forum threads ('''not''' the wiki). If the data on the PCSX2 main page is stale you better write Bositman, because only he can help you. | |||
:One more thing just in case: I've never created forum threads automatically either from wiki pages or from [https://forums.pcsx2.net/Thread-Request-thread-for-new-game-in-compatibility-list @Request thread for new game in compatibility list] thread. The pages are always created manually by the different forum users when they fill like doing it. | |||
:I hope this small wall of text cleared all the stuff you wanted to know. Also, could you please add your signature after you ask something on the wiki (for posterity and readability)? To add signature just use <nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki> at the end of the sentence. Thanks! --[[User:Ngng|Ngng]] ([[User talk:Ngng|talk]]) 21:50, 4 January 2018 (GMT) | |||
== Discs with the same CRC == | |||
Cheats & WS pnachs and GSdx-HW hacks key on CRCs. If discs have the same CRC, it might cause problems. | |||
Info about this might be confusing to those who haven't (what so ever) dealt with pnachs or hacks, but I doubt that anyone finds it discouraging. | |||
:Uh, hello! | |||
:The same CRC for a different disc means the same binary (executable) which should mean the cheats will work for both discs (I've never seen this CRC code though, only my speculations). If it works as expected why bother mentioning it then? I'm not trying to dissuade you if you're serious about parsing CRCs for every game in the catalogue, but leaving such information of questionable use on only 3 pages is kind of breaking the consistency of said catalogue. Again you can go ahead if you want but there are at least 12K serials to go! It's an astronomical amount! --[[User:Ngng|Ngng]] ([[User talk:Ngng|talk]]) 06:04, 27 February 2018 (GMT) | |||
If the discs have the same CRC then it doesn't necessarily mean that they are binary identical, at least not judging from the GSdx-HW hack list in "GSCrc.cpp" which claims that a disc version of "Spyro New Beginning", a disc version of "ICO", and a disc version of "Twisted Metal - Black" have the same CRC, and that a disc version of "Devil May Cry 3" and a disc version of "God Of War" have the same CRC. But OK, this might be better placed in "GameIndex.dbf". | |||
== PAL Games Playable in NTSC mode == | |||
Yeah, that's precisely what I meant. I don't know what sort of icon you could use for that. But I think in general people would rather play in NTSC mode on PCSX2 since it's usually easier to scale up the resolution than the frame rate. [[User:EddieHimself|EddieHimself]] ([[User talk:EddieHimself|talk]]) 23:48, 26 February 2019 (GMT) | |||
:Oh, hi! If you're dedicated to fill such an information for as many games as you can (because no one else here has this information, certainly not me), please go ahead! You can come up with a picture or an idea at least for me to create a picture (or may be I myself will think of something). When an icon is created I'll add it to the template right away. --[[User:Ngng|Ngng]] ([[User talk:Ngng|talk]]) 05:46, 27 February 2019 (GMT) | |||
== Sorry about the punctuation for the crawler bot! == | |||
Sorry about that Ngng. I'll make sure to catch that before I make any other edits! Thank you for your assistance and guidance so far! | |||
- OneBigSpud | |||
:Oh, hi! Don't worry about that! Your contributions are really great! I always wanted to fill in missing descriptions but never had the time. :-\ Thanks a lot! --[[User:Ngng|Ngng]] ([[User talk:Ngng|talk]]) 21:22, 15 April 2019 (BST) | |||
== Wiki backups == | |||
Are regular backups of the wiki made? It would be a shame to lose all this information if something went wrong. There seem to be some information about backing up MediaWIki [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Backing_up_a_wiki here]. It would also be good to verify that any backups made can actually be restored properly :P. --[[User:Ratchet66|Ratchet66]] ([[User talk:Ratchet66|talk]]) 23:09, 17 August 2019 (BST) | |||
:Hello there! I do make backups occasionally, but I don't have any access to the wiki server, so my backup program uses the standard backup features [https://wiki.pcsx2.net/Special:Export for pages] and [https://wiki.pcsx2.net/Special:ListFiles images]. The real burden of backing up is on the wiki hosting service (and I could understand your possible skepticism, but I'm just a contributor like any). I can guarantee you though that I can restore my backup any time; after all this wiki was created on a totally different server and then transferred here by the means of such a backup. So rest assured that if the worst comes to the worst, most of the info will be safe and sound. Better yet, you can make your own backup, all you need is a program or a script of some sort for this. --[[User:Ngng|Ngng]] ([[User talk:Ngng|talk]]) 08:38, 18 August 2019 (BST) | |||
::That's great to hear! I might make my own backup as well, it can't hurt. --[[User:Ratchet66|Ratchet66]] ([[User talk:Ratchet66|talk]]) | |||
:I gotta warn you though. My program just finished download and it's huge. ~7K images/~13K pages with total size of ~2.2Gb, which took 1.5h to download, and one particular page refused to be exported with full history (unsurprisingly it's [[Complete List of Games]]), so I was oblige to code an exception in the process and export only the last revision of it. --[[User:Ngng|Ngng]] ([[User talk:Ngng|talk]]) 14:38, 18 August 2019 (BST) | |||
== Question == | |||
Im pretty sure this guy is a huge troll with malicious intent: https://wiki.pcsx2.net/Special:Contributions/Red_Tv. I don't know if I'm allowed to just go ahead and revert all of his changes but for the most part they're useless, made up, or irrelevant. Example: "Black has an issue of crashing when shooting enemies in the face". You're the only user I know that I've seen editing alot so I turn to you for guidance! [[User:Optim|Optim]] ([[User talk:Optim|talk]]) 06:58, 10 March 2020 (UTC) | |||
:It's been a long time since I played any PS2 game myself so it's not possible for me to tell if any new info added to the wiki is wrong. I don't even know about possible new features in PCSX2, I'm quite unfit as an administrator. It seems he wants to be thorough in adding small issues, some of them may not be correct or relevant because of his inexperience with the emulator. What's to gain in spreading misinformation on this wiki? It's just a waste of time for a troll in my opinion. If you have some of the games he added issues to, could you check them? If none of his issues are real, then I probably should remove them. --[[User:Ngng|Ngng]] ([[User talk:Ngng|talk]]) 10:49, 10 March 2020 (UTC) | |||
::Yeah, I'm a bit pessimistic at times when it comes to wiki's, I guess. The games I've reverted his changes on I've tested personally and found no issues, I'd probably find more if I go down the list, but in my small sample size he's been incorrect so far. I'll test more later on and let you know. Thanks! [[User:Optim|Optim]] ([[User talk:Optim|talk]]) 16:44, 10 March 2020 (UTC) | |||
Hello, I am not a troll i am just a guy who wanted to help improve PCSX2 Wiki | |||
So In addition of adding issue i find i also added issues from github | |||
The issue with the game "Black" was taken from PCSX2 GITHUB | |||
https://github.com/PCSX2/pcsx2/issues/2884 | |||
According to the creator of the issue the game crashes when he shoots people heads | |||
And no other condition has been found to reproduce this glitch | |||
Pcsx2 team didnt close his issue so i thought it was legit. | |||
:Oh, Hi! Don't be discouraged, we just overreacted a little. Every little piece of help is appreciated and thank you for your contributions. Some of the github issues may not be real, but that's probably a price to pay for having others that are useful. Fake issues will eventually be removed by the people playing respective games. --[[User:Ngng|Ngng]] ([[User talk:Ngng|talk]]) 17:55, 23 March 2020 (UTC) | |||
== Question regarding version number == | |||
Hey, | |||
you recently edited my testing entry of Test Drive by changing the version number from 1.7.0 to 1.6.0. As far as I know, the version number 1.7.0 was indeed correct, though - as you can see here: https://buildbot.orphis.net/pcsx2/ | |||
Am I not allowed to use the most recent 1.7.0 builds for testing or what is the issue here? -TomBoss | |||
:Hey yourself! :) | |||
:Sorry I'm just completely out of touch with PCSX2 (and I expected 1.6.0 to follow 1.5.x builds, but apparently this is not the case, my bad). --[[User:Ngng|Ngng]] ([[User talk:Ngng|talk]]) 06:30, 10 May 2020 (BST) | |||
== Checking up on Ngng == | |||
Hey Ngng, how you been? I occasionally still check the wiki and think it's awesome that you're still working on it and maintaining it. Is there anything in particular that you're currently working on or are you mostly just maintaining it nowadays? --[[User:SHunter|SHunter]] ([[User talk:SHunter|talk]]) 11:14, 29 June 2020 (GMT-5) | |||
:Oh, hey! I'm okay, thank you! Haven't seen you in a while, hope you're also doing fine in this big inhospitable world! I'm reduced to a casual guest here, always thinking to myself: soon I'll definitely find the time to update games from redump.org or add this category or do that. The time I never seem to be able to find. I'm doing a personal project for more than a year now (on top of other personal projects), which probably contributes to my laziness. One day, though, I'll rise from the depths of my self deception and do something useful here, too (hopefully)... :) --[[User:Ngng|Ngng]] ([[User talk:Ngng|talk]]) 06:11, 30 June 2020 (UTC) | |||
Yeah it's been a while. I remember making icons for the wiki during my senior year in high school then I got really busy in life (in a good way). Now I'm about to graduate from college next semester. I'm also in the same boat, I got lots of personal projects some of which I'm doing so I can land a good job. This wiki is in a pretty good state rn imo. I occasionally find myself running some games in PCSX2 and checking the wiki to fix bugs. PCSX2 has come a long way. In all the games I own there are only minor visual bugs. I really would like to see more progress and I'd like to help on the wiki some too but I guess we're all kinda busy atm. Anyways I got some free time now and thought I would contribute to the wiki and PCSX2 as I play through some games I haven't played in a while. Keep up the good work! --[[User:SHunter|SHunter]] ([[User talk:SHunter|talk]]) 02:03, 30 June 2020 (GMT-5) | |||
:I'm really glad you're doing good! We need more good news! I didn't play a PS2 game in years :-\ (it's always either Doom or newer PC games for me nowadays, guess I was always a doomer). --[[User:Ngng|Ngng]] ([[User talk:Ngng|talk]]) 17:53, 1 July 2020 (UTC) | |||
Also I got an idea for another tag/category. With the issues maybe there should be a tag for which stable version of PCSX2 the issue was last verified on. That way it'll be easier to track which issues can be removed or marked as fixed. As many issues can now be removed or archived with the solution being to use the latest stable version of PCSX2. --[[User:SHunter|SHunter]] ([[User talk:SHunter|talk]]) 02:15, 30 June 2020 (GMT-5) | |||
:You mean like "fully playable on 1.6.0 stable"? If you want to do it, go ahead! (but any new tag may require a lot of work to update hundreds of games). --[[User:Ngng|Ngng]] ([[User talk:Ngng|talk]]) 17:53, 1 July 2020 (UTC) | |||
That's a good idea for a tag as well. What I meant was another field for issues which says what version of PCSX2 the issue was tested on. On the Spy Hunter page for example most of those issues don't exist on 1.6 stable. I think it's only worth keeping issues which still exist on the latest stable version. The extra field will be useful to bug testers since it'll be easier to keep track of which bugs still exist and are reproducible. I will give it a shot later to update the issues template. It'd be nice if the wiki came with automated tools, I guess I'd have to write a bot to update all the games. --[[User:SHunter|SHunter]] ([[User talk:SHunter|talk]]) 08:27, 02 July 2020 (GMT-5) | |||
:Oh, I got it. Yep, this change is pretty minor and very easy to implement and could be useful as well. I'd give you one of my bots to dissect but as always in such cases they've been written fast and dirty. I guess there must be a source of some universal bot on the net, but I always preferred my own sources. Oh, and "fixed" issues could still be useful, and even are entertaining in a way in my opinion. --[[User:Ngng|Ngng]] ([[User talk:Ngng|talk]]) 06:20, 3 July 2020 (UTC) | |||