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:Yeah, I suspected it as much, I'll remove the duplicate, thanks! --[[User:Ngng|Ngng]] ([[User talk:Ngng|talk]]) 18:26, 29 March 2017 (BST) | :Yeah, I suspected it as much, I'll remove the duplicate, thanks! --[[User:Ngng|Ngng]] ([[User talk:Ngng|talk]]) 18:26, 29 March 2017 (BST) | ||
== PMed | == PMed you == | ||
It's me again, check your forum PM kthx :P | |||
== PS2 List Possible Missings == | == PS2 List Possible Missings == | ||
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::Cool, glad to hear it was useful :). I'll continue using your list as a reference for redump.org's miss list in the never ending goal of preservation. Thanks for your awesome work and I'll be sure to cross check our list again to update with the new data you found for these serials. --[[User:Dizzzy|Dizzzy]] ([[User talk:Dizzzy|talk]]) 18:57, 9 August 2017 (BST) | ::Cool, glad to hear it was useful :). I'll continue using your list as a reference for redump.org's miss list in the never ending goal of preservation. Thanks for your awesome work and I'll be sure to cross check our list again to update with the new data you found for these serials. --[[User:Dizzzy|Dizzzy]] ([[User talk:Dizzzy|talk]]) 18:57, 9 August 2017 (BST) | ||
== Question regarding demo missing from games list. == | |||
Hey Ngng, I recently came across info about a demo - 989 Sports Demo (not the 2004 one SCUS 97373). Here are pics[http://imgur.com/a/74ozQ]. At first glance it looks like a PS1 demo disc however I know this is not the case, at the bottom of the front it also says "only for PS2". I'm thinking it might be SCUS-94677, 989 Sports 2003 Demo Disc (which sonyindex incorrectly listed as a PS1 game). Any more info? I saw it pop up on ebay a couple weeks back and am kicking myself for not buying it. --[[User:Dizzzy|Dizzzy]] ([[User talk:Dizzzy|talk]]) 16:31, 20 August 2017 (BST) | |||
:Hi! It could still be 2004 Demo Disc (but, yeah, it's doubtful). If it's some 2003 demo it should (but may not) have serial number in range of 97200..97300 (see 97253, 97325, 97226, 97315, 97223, 97317, etc.), I've never seen 946XX serials for the PS2 (but who knows...). The sleeve says it contains only "exciting ''videos'' of these sport titles", so it's still could have only videos on it. But if you collect demos, I'm sorry you've missed it, it looks like it's in mint condition. --[[User:Ngng|Ngng]] ([[User talk:Ngng|talk]]) 08:16, 21 August 2017 (BST) | |||
::Meh, I don't really collect discs, I buy, redump / share then resell. It will probably turn up again eventually. By the way, the master list is missing: SLUS-29200 Konami Kids Playground. --[[User:Dizzzy|Dizzzy]] ([[User talk:Dizzzy|talk]]) 20:31, 21 August 2017 (BST) | |||
:Which one? There are four Konami Kids Playground titles and each of them already has a serial. I remember seeing this 29200 when I was working on SonyIndex database (or somewhere else) but skipped it back then. I can probably return to it later, though. --[[User:Ngng|Ngng]] ([[User talk:Ngng|talk]]) 08:05, 22 August 2017 (BST) | |||
:: It's a demo [http://www.ebay.com/itm/PLAYSTATION-2-PS2-KONAMI-KIDS-PLAYGROUND-DEMO-DISC-FAST-FREE-SHIPPING-WORKS-/291488889046?hash=item43de1778d6:g:dH0AAOSweW5VUOUa]. --[[User:Dizzzy|Dizzzy]] ([[User talk:Dizzzy|talk]]) 17:19, 23 August 2017 (BST) | |||
:Oh, cool, thank you! I'll add this when I get home from vacation. --[[User:Ngng|Ngng]] ([[User talk:Ngng|talk]]) 07:45, 24 August 2017 (BST) | |||
== More Missings == | |||
Hope these help! | |||
* SLUS-28065 Odin's Sphere (trade demo) [DVD][https://imgur.com/a/OaUfT] | |||
* SLUS-28069 Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4 (trade demo) http://www.ebay.com/itm/Atlus-Shin-Megami-Tensei-Persona-4-Playstation-2-Trade-Demo-Rare-/263203380651?hash=item3d4824ddab:g:QLAAAOSwcndZuFJj | |||
I also found evidence of a Persona 3 trade demo, but then found they made a PSP persona 3 trade demo and figured that might have been it (didn't have a serial number for it! --[[User:Dizzzy|Dizzzy]] ([[User talk:Dizzzy|talk]]) 23:08, 14 September 2017 (BST) | |||
:Wonderful! Thank you! --[[User:Ngng|Ngng]] ([[User talk:Ngng|talk]]) 06:49, 15 September 2017 (BST) | |||
== GameFaqs link infobox broken? == | |||
Hey ng, I was just modifying some pages and noticed GameFaqs links are no longer showing up. Did something get broken in the Infobox template with this? -- [[User:Ryudo|Ryudo]] ([[User talk:Ryudo|talk]]) 11:09, 23 September 2017 (BST) | |||
:Hey! They were always sitting there in the code "just in case". I had neither intention nor reason to show those links (otherwise someone would definitely remark about wiki affiliation with gamefaqs (which, if true, wouldn't be that bad)). --[[User:Ngng|Ngng]] ([[User talk:Ngng|talk]]) 15:52, 23 September 2017 (BST) | |||
== Note for You == | |||
Just a heads up, the reaosn you're seeing a bit more activity than normal is because I put a shout out on Reddit yesterday to try and get untested games filled in :) | |||
:Good thinking, thank you! I don't think this will last too long, though. :-\ I really need to shake off my own laziness one of these days and do something constructive for the wiki too... --[[User:Ngng|Ngng]] ([[User talk:Ngng|talk]]) 15:29, 17 November 2017 (GMT) | |||
Is there any way you specifically can edit the left column? It would be nice to add a tab for "Untested games" - currently it's buried in the Browse section, so not many people know about it. | |||
:By "Untested games" you mean [[:Category:Games without test cases|this category]]? The category is ''almost'' correct (it consists of articles with at least one empty test entry, so [[Ikki Tousen: Shining Dragon|this one]] will also qualify)). | |||
:Yep, the right panel is editable. I'll add the category there, if you think it'll help (and you can also edit it yourself, it's not protected). --[[User:Ngng|Ngng]] ([[User talk:Ngng|talk]]) 21:28, 17 November 2017 (GMT) | |||
Never mind, I saw your post above. | |||
:I guess this can be improved, but as it stands it shouldn't be a big problem. I'll think about it... --[[User:Ngng|Ngng]] ([[User talk:Ngng|talk]]) 22:58, 19 November 2017 (GMT) | |||
I know this is another big sort of request, but a way to identify games without compatibility threads linked in them would help us alot as well. I'm sure you could just detect whether or not the string is there no? | |||
:Initially I linked all compatibility thread posts to the corresponding wiki articles and every article back to a forum thread. Now I periodically update wiki articles with new posts' links. It's not a problem at all considering that the forum posts are sorted by date and I know the date of the last post I've checked. But "periodically" in my case means sporadically. | |||
:In other words, it's not an issue you want to spend any time on. It's under my slow and lazy control. --[[User:Ngng|Ngng]] ([[User talk:Ngng|talk]]) 20:43, 20 November 2017 (GMT) | |||
:And btw, I've checked now and save for your two new posts there were no updates since my last watch. --[[User:Ngng|Ngng]] ([[User talk:Ngng|talk]]) 20:57, 20 November 2017 (GMT) | |||
== new disc not on list == | |||
* SCED-52391[https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Welcome-Pack-Bonus-Demo-6-PlayStation-2-PS2-/352218397084] | |||
* SCED-53018 Bonus Demo 8 (Geu) [Germany?] | |||
S?ED-????? Area 51[https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PlayStation-2-ps2-area-51-demo-promo-disc-is-excellent-UK-pal-/272901179775] | |||
'''SLED-54315''' Lego Star Wars II The Original Trilogy[https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lego-Star-Wars-II-The-Original-Trilogy-PlayStation-PS2-Demo-Disc-/222679232092] | |||
--[[User:Dizzzy|Dizzzy]] ([[User talk:Dizzzy|talk]]) 05:50, 3 December 2017 (GMT) | |||
:Thanks, man! Your attention is really appreciated! --[[User:Ngng|Ngng]] ([[User talk:Ngng|talk]]) 09:14, 3 December 2017 (GMT) | |||
:I've brute-forced Lego Star Wars II serial, but was unable to do that with Area 51's one. I'll try to search for it later again, or maybe a better shot will pop up somewhere. --[[User:Ngng|Ngng]] ([[User talk:Ngng|talk]]) 10:27, 3 December 2017 (GMT) | |||
:: you're welcome. a rare PS2 USA demo collector has joined redump recently, he sent me a list he has compiled. I added a handful of discs to our miss list. At least a few of these discs are missing from your list. See changes I made to the redump wiki list today here[http://wiki.redump.org/index.php?title=Sony_Playstation_2_US_Missing_Dumps&action=historysubmit&diff=16285&oldid=16122] --[[User:Dizzzy|Dizzzy]] ([[User talk:Dizzzy|talk]]) 20:12, 4 December 2017 (GMT) | |||
:I will definitely check the new serials, thanks again! --[[User:Ngng|Ngng]] ([[User talk:Ngng|talk]]) 06:04, 5 December 2017 (GMT) | |||
:PAL demos look like an untapped gold mine. Whenever I search for a serial at least 2-3 more new demos pop up. --[[User:Ngng|Ngng]] ([[User talk:Ngng|talk]]) 11:14, 5 December 2017 (GMT) | |||
== running ngbot again == | |||
Hey, it seems the ngbot hasn't been logged in since May 23, 2017 according to the fourms. The compatibility list is quite outdated and alot of the dates are reported as not being updated since March 1st, 2015 - it seems like a full scrape should be in order. | |||
I wasn't sure if there was anything that had to be done on your side to get that going again. Thanks ;) | |||
Also remind me again, how does the data flow for the compatibility list work? I can't remember if entries from the forums automatically get added to the wiki or not/the other way around. Also, is the compatibility list sourced from the forums or the wiki? It's not exactly clear to me :P | |||
:Hey! Happy holidays! | |||
:I'll try to answer by explaining what ngbot is. ngbot is just my second account with different set of rights (say, a bit more rights for some forums threads). I used this account to fill '''every''' compatibility forum thread (and I mean, every one of them) only '''once''' (it was the spring of 2015, 2.5 years ago). And yes, it was done by the script run from my machine, but the script required A LOT of prior work (because forum threads named differently than the wiki pages, so I had to build a link table between the two, which was a cumbersome task). | |||
:After that time I had '''never''' run that script again (and hopefully never will). The wiki links for all the new forum threads (created after ngbot did it's job) are filled without using any script -- either by the person who created the thread or by me sporadically logging in into ngbot account (only if the link is absent). | |||
:On the wiki side the same work of initial linking was done by me (around the same time) by using the second script. After the initial run I've never used the second script either. All the subsequent new links I've added manually (fortunately there weren't so many at all). | |||
:Let's make it clear that we are talking only about [https://forums.pcsx2.net/Forum-Public-compatibility-list this forum] and the thread inside it. We're not talking about the contents of [https://forums.pcsx2.net/Thread-Request-thread-for-new-game-in-compatibility-list this thread] at all. | |||
:Question: Why ain't I updating forum links on the wiki pages? Answer: I'm on it, but I'm slow so bear with me (you can do it yourself if you want, though). The last time I've checked the compatibility forum for the new threads was in November 20, 2017 (I know the exact date because it is written in a special text file). When the next time I'll visit this forum I will open each thread that was created (or modified) '''after''' 11/20/2017 and make changes accordingly (if the thread misses a wiki link, I'll add a correct wiki link, if a corresponding wiki page misses a forum link, I'll add a forum link to that wiki page; and sometimes I add new forum test case itself to the wiki as well). | |||
:As to the subject of [https://pcsx2.net/compatibility-list.html this table], it has nothing to do with me at all. As far as I know it's filled by the simple (?) script run on the server side (periodically?). The script indeed creates table from the data of public compatibility forum threads ('''not''' the wiki). If the data on the PCSX2 main page is stale you better write Bositman, because only he can help you. | |||
:One more thing just in case: I've never created forum threads automatically either from wiki pages or from [https://forums.pcsx2.net/Thread-Request-thread-for-new-game-in-compatibility-list @Request thread for new game in compatibility list] thread. The pages are always created manually by the different forum users when they fill like doing it. | |||
:I hope this small wall of text cleared all the stuff you wanted to know. Also, could you please add your signature after you ask something on the wiki (for posterity and readability)? To add signature just use <nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki> at the end of the sentence. Thanks! --[[User:Ngng|Ngng]] ([[User talk:Ngng|talk]]) 21:50, 4 January 2018 (GMT) | |||
== Discs with the same CRC == | |||
Cheats & WS pnachs and GSdx-HW hacks key on CRCs. If discs have the same CRC, it might cause problems. | |||
Info about this might be confusing to those who haven't (what so ever) dealt with pnachs or hacks, but I doubt that anyone finds it discouraging. | |||
:Uh, hello! | |||
:The same CRC for a different disc means the same binary (executable) which should mean the cheats will work for both discs (I've never seen this CRC code though, only my speculations). If it works as expected why bother mentioning it then? I'm not trying to dissuade you if you're serious about parsing CRCs for every game in the catalogue, but leaving such information of questionable use on only 3 pages is kind of breaking the consistency of said catalogue. Again you can go ahead if you want but there are at least 12K serials to go! It's an astronomical amount! --[[User:Ngng|Ngng]] ([[User talk:Ngng|talk]]) 06:04, 27 February 2018 (GMT) | |||
If the discs have the same CRC then it doesn't necessarily mean that they are binary identical, at least not judging from the GSdx-HW hack list in "GSCrc.cpp" which claims that a disc version of "Spyro New Beginning", a disc version of "ICO", and a disc version of "Twisted Metal - Black" have the same CRC, and that a disc version of "Devil May Cry 3" and a disc version of "God Of War" have the same CRC. But OK, this might be better placed in "GameIndex.dbf". | |||
== PAL Games Playable in NTSC mode == | |||
Yeah, that's precisely what I meant. I don't know what sort of icon you could use for that. But I think in general people would rather play in NTSC mode on PCSX2 since it's usually easier to scale up the resolution than the frame rate. [[User:EddieHimself|EddieHimself]] ([[User talk:EddieHimself|talk]]) 23:48, 26 February 2019 (GMT) | |||
:Oh, hi! If you're dedicated to fill such an information for as many games as you can (because no one else here has this information, certainly not me), please go ahead! You can come up with a picture or an idea at least for me to create a picture (or may be I myself will think of something). When an icon is created I'll add it to the template right away. --[[User:Ngng|Ngng]] ([[User talk:Ngng|talk]]) 05:46, 27 February 2019 (GMT) | |||
== Sorry about the punctuation for the crawler bot! == | |||
Sorry about that Ngng. I'll make sure to catch that before I make any other edits! Thank you for your assistance and guidance so far! | |||
- OneBigSpud | |||
:Oh, hi! Don't worry about that! Your contributions are really great! I always wanted to fill in missing descriptions but never had the time. :-\ Thanks a lot! --[[User:Ngng|Ngng]] ([[User talk:Ngng|talk]]) 21:22, 15 April 2019 (BST) | |||