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Posted something on general discussions that I want you guys to chime in on. Thanks! -[[User:Karasuhebi|Karasuhebi]] ([[User talk:Karasuhebi|talk]]) 08:06, 19 July 2015 (BST)
Posted something on general discussions that I want you guys to chime in on. Thanks! -[[User:Karasuhebi|Karasuhebi]] ([[User talk:Karasuhebi|talk]]) 08:06, 19 July 2015 (BST)


== Replace/automation work that may be considered for future endeavors ==
== Moujuutsukai to Oujisama ==
 
I've stumbled upon game FAQs serial error which took me almost 40 min to untangle. It's getting harder and harder as if re-releases like "Monster Trux Extreme: Arena Edition" -> "Monster Trux Arenas: Special Edition" were not enough... It looks easy when you collect all of them like this (but it's a real adventure to solve the mystery of wrong serials):
* <s>Set page playability statuses according to new test cases ([[:Category:Temp new test case]], [[:Category:Temp new test case too long]])</s>
* <s>Sort test entries (new test entries were inserted at the top of test tables). Such a work can possibly only be done by hands and it is pretty time consuming.</s>
* <s>Finish adding Japanese names (take 1)</s> / <s>clear Japanese names of html codes (&amp;reg; remains)</s>
* <s>Use [http://www.gamefaqs.com/ps2/list-999 Game faqs] to create still missing titles, serials, release dates, AKAs. I'd even get boxarts from them but I'd need their permission for that. So no luck here I guess.</s>
** <s>Clear all existing serials from nonuniform, duplicate and bad entries</s>
** <s>Use http://www.sonyindex.com to include additional serials (game FAQs does not have all of them). This will take a while. I've got (as of today) 52 misspelled or cancelled titles I have to search the internet for. Every title takes up to 10 min. :-\ The site has many demo discs which I guess I will also copy here.</s>
*** <s>That earned 1653 new serials. Not bad. Most of them are same title demos (meaning, no additional work, unlike the demo collections). I need to update articles with new serials. p.s. It looks it was a wrong impression, as wrong as at least 65 serials in SonyIndex database (I cross-checked them). How can I trust the other ~5500 serials now?.. :-\</s>
** <s>Use http://redump.org/discs/system/ps2/ (Also getting languages and AKAs there. Pretty neat and accurate site.). Got around 900 new serials, found only 2 or 3 errors so far.</s>
** <s>All AKAs with serials -> Original names, all AKAs without -> Also known as. It's getting messy otherwise.</s>
** Add all the new demo discs from sonyindex.com and redump.org. Every demo page requires a good amount of work. :-\.
** redump.org: add collected languages to the wiki articles
** Use http://www.play-asia.com/games/classics/sony/playstation2/games/14/71fd#fc=o:1
** Other places to check: http://mirage.just-size.net/slps/slps.html (mysterious place), http://playstationcollecting.com/index.cfm?FuseAction=Search.PS2 , http://www.gony.pe.kr/wiki/gony/moin.cgi/PS2_20_c1_a4_bd_c4_b9_df_b8_c5_20_b8_ae_bd_ba_c6_ae (small Korean DB), http://www.gameplanet.co.kr/xe/2337317 (small Korean DB), http://www.arcade-history.com/index.php?page=database&listtypes=44&lemot=&annee=0&editeur=&keyword1=0&gallery=&Tri=0&position=1 , http://www.suruga-ya.jp/search?category=20002&search_word=&cookie=true&inStock=On (unsure), http://homepage2.nifty.com/gamedatabase/software/DB_SNC2_PS2_top.html (unsure), http://www.mobygames.com/browse/games/ps2/list-games/ (unsure, data differs from game FAQs), http://gamee.cc/doc/ps3_ps2id.php (easy), http://oplmanager.no-ip.info/site/index.php?gamelist (unsure).
** Use http://ns348841.ip-91-121-109.eu/psxdata/psx2/ntsc-j_list2.html to include additional serials (game FAQs does not have all of them), found 244 dupes in all site's serials. :-\ Should I bother cleaning this at all?! (148 left, I postponed parsing this until all the other sites are parsed and loaded, too many errors).
* Check for disabled and removed regions (should not be many left).
* Renew Japanese names using new serials (take 2) / find Japanese games that game FAQs does not have (currently I known of only one such title)
* Update the following info: genres, multiplayer status, developers/publishers from game FAQs, www.jp.playstation.com and redump.org
* Update the following info: game descriptions from game FAQs with their permission (Dolphin wiki has all the descriptions copied from game FAQs), or Wikipedia if not possible.
* Automatically set Wikipedia links (where possible) -- not that hard
* Ask game FAQs permission to use their box arts (submitted by users, btw), try to use Wikipedia's box arts if not possible.
* Update links to Metacritics or Game reviews
* Game properties
** Update widescreen=1 statuses, using pretty chaotic *.pnach database (hard), decide if splitting widescreen=1&2 to widescreen & widescreenpatch is needed
** Update perfectly-emulated=1 and scales-properly=1 statuses (ask forum users)
** Online/LAN games: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PlayStation_2_online_games
** Other properties? (will need icons from SHunter)


* 猛獣使いと王子様 ~Snow Bride~ - SLPM-55287, http://www.jp.playstation.com/software/title/slpm55287.html  Moujuutsukai to Oujisama: Snow Bride, http://www.play-asia.com/moujuutsukai-to-oujisama-snow-bride/13/7042us
* 猛獣使いと王子様 ~Snow Bride~ 限定版 - SLPM-55286, http://www.jp.playstation.com/software/title/slpm55286.html
* 猛獣使いと王子様 限定版 (LE) - MJP2-00605, http://www.jp.playstation.com/software/title/mjp200605.html  (Moujuutsukai to Oujisama [Limited Edition]), http://www.play-asia.com/moujuutsukai-to-oujisama-limited-edition/13/703sol
* 猛獣使いと王子様 - SLPM-55264, http://www.jp.playstation.com/software/title/slpm55264.html (Moujuutsukai to Oujisama), http://www.play-asia.com/moujuutsukai-to-oujisama/13/703sok


I hate SingStar, not only it pushes tasteless, soulless commercial music (okay, maybe along with more decent music sometimes, but it's still buried in "hits"), it's also almost impossible to collect and link all European names of myriads SingStar releases. I always work with assumption that the Wiki has all the titles already created. Just take a look at the leftovers:
I hate SingStar, not only it pushes tasteless, soulless commercial music (okay, maybe along with more decent music sometimes, but it's still buried in "hits"), it's also almost impossible to collect and link all European names of myriads SingStar releases. I always work with assumption that the Wiki has all the titles already created. Just take a look at the leftovers:
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* <s>SingStar Sjung med Disney</s>
* <s>SingStar Sjung med Disney</s>
* <s>SingStar Svenska Stjärnor</s>
* <s>SingStar Svenska Stjärnor</s>
== Moujuutsukai to Oujisama ==
I've stumbled upon game FAQs serial error which took me almost 40 min to untangle. It's getting harder and harder as if re-releases like "Monster Trux Extreme: Arena Edition" -> "Monster Trux Arenas: Special Edition" were not enough... It looks easy when you collect all of them like this (but it's a real adventure to solve the mystery of wrong serials):
* 猛獣使いと王子様 ~Snow Bride~ - SLPM-55287, http://www.jp.playstation.com/software/title/slpm55287.html  Moujuutsukai to Oujisama: Snow Bride, http://www.play-asia.com/moujuutsukai-to-oujisama-snow-bride/13/7042us
* 猛獣使いと王子様 ~Snow Bride~ 限定版 - SLPM-55286, http://www.jp.playstation.com/software/title/slpm55286.html
* 猛獣使いと王子様 限定版 (LE) - MJP2-00605, http://www.jp.playstation.com/software/title/mjp200605.html  (Moujuutsukai to Oujisama [Limited Edition]), http://www.play-asia.com/moujuutsukai-to-oujisama-limited-edition/13/703sol
* 猛獣使いと王子様 - SLPM-55264, http://www.jp.playstation.com/software/title/slpm55264.html (Moujuutsukai to Oujisama), http://www.play-asia.com/moujuutsukai-to-oujisama/13/703sok


== Typo in the Editing page's text. Where do we fix it? ==
== Typo in the Editing page's text. Where do we fix it? ==
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:Well, and what's the purpose of this wiki then? And who defines the purpose of this wiki? I don't see the point in arguing about such trivial matters. The AKAs are needed, without them it will not be possible to collect all the info from the web. --[[User:Ngng|Ngng]] ([[User talk:Ngng|talk]]) 21:07, 9 October 2015 (BST)
:Well, and what's the purpose of this wiki then? And who defines the purpose of this wiki? I don't see the point in arguing about such trivial matters. The AKAs are needed, without them it will not be possible to collect all the info from the web. --[[User:Ngng|Ngng]] ([[User talk:Ngng|talk]]) 21:07, 9 October 2015 (BST)
== Ongoing replace/automation work ==
* <s>Set page playability statuses according to new test cases ([[:Category:Temp new test case]], [[:Category:Temp new test case too long]])</s>
* <s>Sort test entries (new test entries were inserted at the top of test tables). Such a work can possibly only be done by hands and it is pretty time consuming.</s>
* <s>Finish adding Japanese names (take 1)</s> / <s>clear Japanese names of html codes (&amp;reg; remains)</s>
* <s>Use [http://www.gamefaqs.com/ps2/list-999 Game faqs] to create still missing titles, serials, release dates, AKAs. I'd even get boxarts from them but I'd need their permission for that. So no luck here I guess.</s>
** <s>Clear all existing serials from nonuniform, duplicate and bad entries</s>
** <s>Use http://www.sonyindex.com to include additional serials (game FAQs does not have all of them). This will take a while. I've got (as of today) 52 misspelled or cancelled titles I have to search the internet for. Every title takes up to 10 min. :-\ The site has many demo discs which I guess I will also copy here.</s>
*** <s>That earned 1653 new serials. Not bad. Most of them are same title demos (meaning, no additional work, unlike the demo collections). I need to update articles with new serials. p.s. It looks it was a wrong impression, as wrong as at least 65 serials in SonyIndex database (I cross-checked them). How can I trust the other ~5500 serials now?.. :-\</s>
** <s>Use http://redump.org/discs/system/ps2/ (Also getting languages and AKAs there. Pretty neat and accurate site.). Got around 900 new serials, found only 2 or 3 errors so far.</s>
** <s>All AKAs with serials -> Original names, all AKAs without -> Also known as. It's getting messy otherwise.</s>
** Add all the new demo discs from sonyindex.com and redump.org. Every demo page requires a good amount of work. :-\.
** redump.org: add collected languages to the wiki articles
** Use http://www.play-asia.com/games/classics/sony/playstation2/games/14/71fd#fc=o:1
** Other places to check: http://mirage.just-size.net/slps/slps.html (mysterious place), http://playstationcollecting.com/index.cfm?FuseAction=Search.PS2 , http://www.gony.pe.kr/wiki/gony/moin.cgi/PS2_20_c1_a4_bd_c4_b9_df_b8_c5_20_b8_ae_bd_ba_c6_ae (small Korean DB), http://www.gameplanet.co.kr/xe/2337317 (small Korean DB), http://www.arcade-history.com/index.php?page=database&listtypes=44&lemot=&annee=0&editeur=&keyword1=0&gallery=&Tri=0&position=1 , http://www.suruga-ya.jp/search?category=20002&search_word=&cookie=true&inStock=On (unsure), http://homepage2.nifty.com/gamedatabase/software/DB_SNC2_PS2_top.html (unsure), http://www.mobygames.com/browse/games/ps2/list-games/ (unsure, data differs from game FAQs), http://gamee.cc/doc/ps3_ps2id.php (easy), http://oplmanager.no-ip.info/site/index.php?gamelist (unsure).
** Use http://ns348841.ip-91-121-109.eu/psxdata/psx2/ntsc-j_list2.html to include additional serials (game FAQs does not have all of them), found 244 dupes in all site's serials. :-\ Should I bother cleaning this at all?! (148 left, I postponed parsing this until all the other sites are parsed and loaded, too many errors).
* Check for disabled and removed regions (should not be many left).
* Renew Japanese names using new serials (take 2) / find Japanese games that game FAQs does not have (currently I known of only one such title)
* Update the following info: genres, multiplayer status, developers/publishers from game FAQs, www.jp.playstation.com and redump.org
* Update the following info: game descriptions from game FAQs with their permission (Dolphin wiki has all the descriptions copied from game FAQs), or Wikipedia if not possible.
* Automatically set Wikipedia links (where possible) -- not that hard
* Ask game FAQs permission to use their box arts (submitted by users, btw), try to use Wikipedia's box arts if not possible.
* Update links to Metacritics or Game reviews
* Game properties
** Update widescreen=1 statuses, using pretty chaotic *.pnach database (hard), decide if splitting widescreen=1&2 to widescreen & widescreenpatch is needed
** Update perfectly-emulated=1 and scales-properly=1 statuses (ask forum users)
** Online/LAN games: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PlayStation_2_online_games
** Other properties? (will need icons from SHunter)
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