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Oh wow. Thanks so much, FlatOut. [[User:Gamemassa|Gamemassa]] ([[User talk:Gamemassa|talk]]) 9:54, 13 November 2016 (BST)
Oh wow. Thanks so much, FlatOut. [[User:Gamemassa|Gamemassa]] ([[User talk:Gamemassa|talk]]) 9:54, 13 November 2016 (BST)
== Game titles ==
:Uh, hello again!
:"I prefer the correct titles, regardless of what other websites say.". It's not a matter of principle for me but I still want to avoid undesirable arguments in future. I believe there is no such thing as a correct title. The closest you can get is the most widely used one. You can also assert that the title is defined by the publisher ([https://www.amazon.com/LEGO-Soccer-Mania/dp/B00006409O/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1480453178&sr=8-2&keywords=LEGO+Soccer+Mania Amazon], [https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/lego-soccer-mania-ps2/ Sony] (the game can no longer be found on EA sites, what a surprise)) or by the boxart title (which may not always correspond with the SKU shipping name and may be changed on reissues). But if you still believe it should be a boxart you mustn't deny that the boxart for this game also has "LEGO" on it. As I said before, in no way it is a matter of principle for me I just like to reduce the risk of idle arguments (in case you'd be determined to rename everything and anything, I hope not).
:On the side note, I'll be away for two days, so start renaming as fast as you can in a few hours (an attempt at humor). --[[User:Ngng|Ngng]] ([[User talk:Ngng|talk]]) 21:31, 29 November 2016 (UTC)
::What the boxart says won't make me change a title, boxart titles are often up to interpretation(though LEGO is only a small logo on the bottom left, exactly how and where (co-)publishers usually print their logo). I started looking into it because the title on the side of the box (where the full title is usually written) and the information on the back cover/disc do not mention LEGO as part of the title either. I then found that both the developer and LEGO itself also mention the game without LEGO in the title(unlike some other games), which prompted me to change it.
::On the side note, thanks for alerting the spammers ;).--[[User:FlatOut|FlatOut]] ([[User talk:FlatOut|talk]]) 23:00, 29 November 2016 (UTC)
::The only title(s) that should matter is the one that shows up in the game itself. Everything else is irrelevant bullshit. The only title(s) I can guarantee you the developers wrote themselves (and therefore is what the developers intended and not some mistake from a retarded part-timer at the publisher) is the title on the main screen of the game. For example, some people think Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix is called Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix+ because that's the name on the box art, but that's incorrect. Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix+ is not the name of any game, it's the name of a product, that product being a 2-for-1 package of Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix and Kingdom Hearts Re:Chain of Memories.
::As far as Soccer Mania is concerned, LEGO is ''definitely'' not part of the game's title. That's a logo in the box art. Here's actual in-game footage of the intro of the game, where you can clearly see the word LEGO and the words "Football Mania" as far away as humanly possible from each other: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CJumdKhVNw
::'''''"I believe there is no such thing as a correct title. The closest you can get is the most widely used one"''''' There ''is'' such a thing as a correct title, and it's not necessarily the one that's most widely used. In the case of the official title, it's not about what you believe, it's about what is. [[User:Karasuhebi|Karasuhebi]] ([[User talk:Karasuhebi|talk]]) 16:20, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
:::I fancy myself a tolerant and a calm person (probably self-deceivingly) but you are trying really hard to wear my nerves thin. In what way this discussion was addressed to you? Could you please refrain from answering to my messages in the future and troll on the forums instead, I'd like some peace... --[[User:Ngng|Ngng]] ([[User talk:Ngng|talk]]) 17:03, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
==[[Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance]]==
I'm not saying the issue is invalid, I'm saying the solution to it is generic enough that it doesn't need to be on a specific game's page. If not we'd have the same exact issue and solution for all games with upscaling issues. See what I'm getting at? -[[User:Karasuhebi|Karasuhebi]] ([[User talk:Karasuhebi|talk]]) 15:32, 19 September 2016 (BST)
The issue is just not as generic as you think and neither are the solutions. You have to look for the solution for each individual game and can't just apply the same generic solution to all games with upscaling issues(otherwise that fix would likely be on by default anyway). This also means that the affected games do need to have the issue reported on the wiki page, so everyone can easily resolve the issue for the game they're playing. - FlatOut
:Fair enough. -[[User:Karasuhebi|Karasuhebi]] ([[User talk:Karasuhebi|talk]]) 03:20, 20 September 2016 (BST)
==ICO edit==
Thanks for making worthwhile edits to the wiki, that info about the issues and their workarounds is definitely useful. This wiki needs more people like you to add in actually PCSX2-related things to the wiki. Keep it up! [[User:Karasuhebi|Karasuhebi]] ([[User talk:Karasuhebi|talk]]) 15:54, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
==Cover captions...==
I wonder, are they really necessary? I mean it's sorta obvious from the cover itself whether it's PAL/NTSC if anyone checks out the full version image. It would probably look cleaner if we just leave the caption part empty maybe. Unless it's absolutely a must-have in there :P -- [[User:Ryudo|Ryudo]] ([[User talk:Ryudo|talk]]) 22:37, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
:They're not necessary as far as I'm concerned. I usually do keep 'em if there's a distinct difference between the covers of different regions. But instead of leaving the caption part empty, I'd personally rather see the captions removed from below the covers, and added as tooltips. - FlatOut
::True. Something like this you mean? (Don't mind the sizes)
::(Hover mouse over cover for tooltip)
<gallery mode=packed-hover style="font-size:11px">
TotAfrontbox.jpg|NTSC cover
</gallery>
::Or visible by default;
<gallery mode=packed-overlay style="font-size:11px">
TotAfrontbox.jpg|NTSC cover
</gallery>
::- [[User:Ryudo|Ryudo]] ([[User talk:Ryudo|talk]]) 23:06, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
==Core2 vs Core 2==
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Core_2
http://www.xinetek.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/intel-core-2-duo-e7400.jpg
It's definitely Core 2, not Core2. I assume it's because of the 'TM' thing maybe that some sites list it as Core2 while the majority lists it as Core 2 again, not sure. In the end it really doesn't matter I guess.
:Some sites, like perhaps Intel.com?
http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/processors/desktop-processors/legacy-intel-core-2-processor.html
http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/processors/desktop-processors/6th-generation-intel-core-i5-processors.html
:I don't understand you guys. Why is of any importance how you prefer writing things? GSDX or GSdx, Core 2 or Core2, Lilypad or LilyPad, 2.9 GHz or 2.90 GHz (oh, my!). This is not even a grammar to be a grammar nazi. This is insane! --[[User:Ngng|Ngng]] ([[User talk:Ngng|talk]]) 21:24, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
::OCD! :D -- [[User:Ryudo|Ryudo]] ([[User talk:Ryudo|talk]]) 21:28, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
== About Nano Breaker ==
[https://mega.nz/#!TdFQXLjA!N3ltySATi1XD__vaT5IKZV1sW9d1uAvDInPZvhrMjPQ Mega link to source video]
You can see the difference yourself. Does it not work for you? I assume you have a copy of the game to test it yourself. --[[User:Vibhor|Vibhor]] ([[User talk:Vibhor|talk]]) 13:26, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
:Thanks for the video. It seems there's a difference between versions. The Software glitches seem slightly different too. - FlatOut
::You mean version of the game? Is that region or just different releases of the game? Also any reason why the issue is marked as a note instead of a minor issue? --[[User:Vibhor|Vibhor]] ([[User talk:Vibhor|talk]]) 16:49, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
==Renderer vs Mode==
Hey so Ref told me he talked you about this and explained that they're renderers, not modes. Why are you reverting my edit? :( I understand it says mode in certain places, but in certain other places it says renderer, and to add to that we know they're supposed to be called renderers. So why not just call them what they are and worry about having them change the wording in PCSX2 as well so it's correct instead of worrying about having the wiki match the incorrect terminology in PCSX2? :) -[[User:Karasuhebi|Karasuhebi]] ([[User talk:Karasuhebi|talk]]) 19:49, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
:I know what they are and as I told him and you at the time that is not how it works in PCSX2. The user interface when changing or modifying the renderer options uses Hardware and Software mode. Renderer in that capacity is only used in passing references outside of the GSdx GUI. You can change it here once it has been fixed in a current stable release.
== Blood Will Tell ==
Any reason why you made the changes on the issues the way you did or was it just a completely random whim? -- [[User:Vibhor|Vibhor]] ([[User talk:Vibhor|talk]]) 18:31, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
:I merely cleared up and fixed the issues, to make sure all users can recognise and find the solutions they need without having to look up what it means or search for the location of the option they need to change.--[[User:FlatOut|FlatOut]] ([[User talk:FlatOut|talk]]) 18:51, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
::You marked a fixed minor issue as serious and removed a note completely. -- [[User:Vibhor|Vibhor]] ([[User talk:Vibhor|talk]]) 02:33, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
:::I don't know how that fixed minor issue got set to serious. If it is fixed though (without needing to change to Software Mode or modify another setting from the default setting), you should add that it has been fixed in the latest stable v1.4.0 or if it was fixed more recently in recent v1.5.0 builds. The issue I removed was not a game specific issue. All games suffer from pixelation when upscaling to some degree, Bilinear (Forced) is not really a solution. Some people prefer the pixelation, other people like the slightly blurred look of the Forced option. It's something that can be added as a preferred setting to a test report, not an issue.
::::[http://imgur.com/a/sT30U See the difference for yourself.] This seemed game specific enough to me as I never encountered something like it in another game. Also I marked it as a note instead of a an issue for exactly that reason.
:::::That does look like a more specific issue. It doesn't look like it's just a texture filtering issue. Can you share multiframe GS dump of the issue(hold CTRL + SHIFT + F8 for 1-3 seconds when the issue is visible)?
GS Dumps of the game in OpenGL HW and SW modes [https://mega.nz/#!mF9CXSqJ!Zc6apY7-HnbfLjGKaZD6dXZuNT7-zmVyvBIX4T62Jy8 here]--[[User:Vibhor|Vibhor]] ([[User talk:Vibhor|talk]]) 17:00, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
: Thanks for the dumps. It's as I suspected based on the screenshots, the upscaling doesn't have an affect for (most of) the game. I've added a new issue for the game with your suggested workaround.
== PTR2 Page Modification ==
I have nothing against you, but why you made the Game Description, I rewrote, back to what it was before? Is there something I did wrong? I just want to know. Thanks in advance. [[User:SomosExe|SomosExe]]
: This is not the place for random info about games. You should go to the wikipedia page for that. Most game descriptions are based on actual promotional material from back in the day. You should only add info is critical information is missing or if there's a miskake in it.
::I just wanted to make the game description more clean and more informative about the plot because it was just about the fact that there's a plot and noodles and good music. Also, there's a trivia part, so I can put random info in it. - ([[User:SomosExe|SomosExe]])
== 1.5.0, v1.5.0? ==
I noticed you changed 1.5.0 to v1.5.0 suddenly, but in the past you were using 1.5.0 yourself. Any reason of why you're going with v1.5.0 now? -- [[User:Ryudo|Ryudo]] ([[User talk:Ryudo|talk]]) 17:24, 28 April 2017 (BST)
:Because the version number on the title bar of PCSX2 changed from 1.5.0 to v1.5.0. ;)
::Oh lol. Thought it was always v1.5.0 and we just went with 1.5.0 by default regardless. Was there a specific version that this took place? Or should we just adjust all the 1.5.0's to v1.5.0 if someone adds an 'older' 1.5.0 version? -- [[User:Ryudo|Ryudo]] ([[User talk:Ryudo|talk]]) 19:06, 28 April 2017 (BST)
:::There is a specific version(1579), but it's easier to do as you mentioned and just apply it to older v1.5.0 builds as well instead of needing to check if it's before or after the specific build each time.--[[User:FlatOut|FlatOut]] ([[User talk:FlatOut|talk]]) 10:49, 29 April 2017 (BST)
== Primal ==
You changed my "Access the Progressive Scan menu (when using a disc of a region other than PAL\Europe)" into "Access the Progressive Scan menu (not available for PAL region)".
To clarify things:
There is a Progressive Scan option also on PAL\Europe, but it is incorporated into the 50hz\60hz option menu, which is presented regardless of whether the user is pressing the cross and triangle keys together when the game boots up.
My formulation is thus the correct one.
:I didn't realise that it was available for PAL regions. Your formulation didn't specify it was available for PAL versions or not(Progressive Scan is often a NTSC-only feature). I updated the note to include the menu will show up without user input for PAL versions.
== Cancelled games ==
Howdy! If you, as I inclined to believe, like digging up info about cancelled games now and then, here's the list of the games that were ''probably'' cancelled in some regions. Some of them have nothing but a release date, for others it's just one region that's questionable and some are here by mistake (for ex. [[187 Ride or Die]] has a Korean release date but not a valid serial, so this is not a subject of this topic). It goes without saying that I'd check the game prior to removing its article or its region:
<pre>
187 Ride or Die
Aliens in the Attic
American Pool II
Austin Mini Racing
Cabela's Alaskan Adventures
Call of Duty: World at War - Final Fronts
Chess Crusade
ChopLifter: Crisis Shield
Cocoto Tennis Master
Code Breaker
Code Lyoko: Quest for Infinity
Don 2: The Game
Extreme Championship Racing: Devastation
EyeToy: Active
EyeToy: Play 3
G1 Jockey 4 2008
Galidor: Defenders of the Outer Dimension
Gangsters Ride
Garfield: A Tail of Two Kitties
Gekibo 2
Gene Troopers
Goodyear Racing
Guilty Gear XX Accent Core Plus
Hue
Jamba Allstars
Karaoke Party
Lamborghini FX
Madden NFL 10
Marble Chaos
MAXim
MaxPlay Classic Games Volume 1
Medical and Engineering Joint Entrance Quiz
MLB 07: The Show
MLB 10: The Show
MLB 11: The Show
Monster House
Move2play
NARC
Pac-Man Fever
Robot Wars: Arenas of Destruction
Rock University Presents: The Naked Brothers Band The Video Game
Simple 2000 Series Vol. 28: The Bushido - Tujigiri Ichidai
Simple 2000 Series Vol. 57: The Pro Yakyuu 2004
Simple 2000 Series Vol. 60: The Tokusatsu Henshin Hero
Simple 2000 Series Vol. 82: The Kung Fu
Snooker 147
Stacked with Daniel Negreanu
Stuart Little 3: Big Photo Adventure
Tennis Masters Series 2003
The Tale of Despereaux
Transworld Skateboarder
Trivial Pursuit Unlimited
Vietnam: The Tet Offensive
Virtual Pool: Tournament Edition
Winter Sports 2: The Next Challenge
World Championship Cards
World Quiz 2009
Worms Blast
WSC REAL 08: World Snooker Championship
Yamaha Supercross
</pre>
--[[User:Ngng|Ngng]] ([[User talk:Ngng|talk]]) 14:57, 11 February 2018 (GMT)
::Thanks for the list. I'll definitely look into those games. I actually like to check up on any game with missing or dubious information, not just cancelled games/versions specifically. Lately there've been quite a few cancelled ones among the ones I checked out, but I just happened to run into those by chance.
--[[User:FlatOut|FlatOut]] ([[User talk:FlatOut|talk]]) 16:46, 11 February 2018 (GMT)
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